MSNBC launches Spectra; you've really gotta take a look...

News Type: Event — Mon May 19, 2008 4:34 PM EDT

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I just noticed a short post in UX magazine on the beta of MSNBC visual newsreader and decided to investigate a little further.

Spectra

I clicked through to the beta site for Spectra Visual Newsreader, with the tagline: A Fuller Spectrum of News.

Okay, what does "A Fuller Spectrum of News" mean?. In this case it means you can pick and choose the news you want from a spectrum of topics, and then see a visual, rotating display of current new items in the categories you've chosen.

How's that possible? Spectra was developed using Papervision 3D, an Open Source realtime 3D engine for Flash (versions 8 and 9 so far), developed and licensed by MIT. Not only is Spectra an exciting display of visual information, but some of the other projects featured on the Papervision 3D blog are fantastic, too. Papervision 3D looks to be a very promising engine for developing 3 dimensional Flash animations and interactive applications.

There's even a section for Newsvine, for those of us interested in the further integration of Newsvine into MSNBC.

Now, will this replace my newsreader? I don't think so, however it's a fun way to interact with news, I might try it fairly often, to see if I'm learning anything new. And, there's a search function, so I might give it a whirl when searching for news items on specific topics. I think it'll find a place in my rss toolbox, especially as it matures as an application.

More Newsware

I was also intrigued by a nav button on the Spectra site that says: NewsWare. "What's Newsware anyway?", I thought to myself. Well, it seems that MSNBC is taking a hint from Google, and is developing some other pretty interesting online apps in addition to Spectra. Check it out for: Apps, Arcade, Widgets, Feeds, Dispatch and Podcasts. All news-related, worth a view. Looks like MSNBC is exploring new ways to interact with its reading public. Let's see how other news organizations take up this challenge.

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Marilyn L

I'm pretty impressed, even though I'm not a huge fan of Flash. But this kind of Flash app is what Flash can do that I don't believe can be done any other way. Do check out Papervision 3D to see more examples of what developers are doing with the technology. It's very exciting to me. I'd love to know if any of us know more about how to use the tool.

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5 votes

#1 - Mon May 19, 2008 4:39 PM EDT

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Eddie French

While we are on cool sites. Check this search site (Safe)

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6 votes

#1.1 - Tue May 20, 2008 6:04 PM EDT

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Allan Neal

That I like.

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2 votes

#1.2 - Tue May 20, 2008 6:40 PM EDT

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Viki Babbles Gonia

That is so cool, Eddie! I love it!

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3 votes

#1.3 - Tue May 20, 2008 9:50 PM EDT

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Ms CYPRAH

Didn't find any words for me, Eddie, so I couldn't test it! Shame, I was looking forward to it. :o(

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2 votes

#1.4 - Wed May 21, 2008 3:45 PM EDT

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Marilyn L

Please take a look at this Spectra: Behind the Scenes Interview with msnbc.com's Catherine Captain for more information about Spectra.

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4 votes

#1.5 - Mon Jun 2, 2008 10:24 AM EDT

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Dennis P. McCann

This thing is very cool. The orbital view is like a tag cloud on acid.

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8 votes

#2 - Mon May 19, 2008 5:15 PM EDT

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rottlady

The orbital view is like a tag cloud on acid.

I thought maybe it was me on acid....It is pretty cool.

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6 votes

#2.1 - Mon May 19, 2008 5:17 PM EDT

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gladbutterfly

I'll triple that comment;-) It's trippy (heh, no pun intended) at first blush; we shall see how well it works.

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4 votes

#2.2 - Mon May 19, 2008 5:48 PM EDT

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Marilyn L

Sounds about right to me, too.

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2 votes

#2.3 - Mon May 19, 2008 9:25 PM EDT

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vas

I'm sorry, I have to disagree with all of you. This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. It is completely useless. You can't even click on the items you want to read... no matter what you click, it selects news items in a set order. A plain old tag cloud let's me click on whatever tag I want, and tells me something with the size of the tags. This thing sucked up all the CPU cycles on my computer (4 GHz) and in return I got a something less functional than the Newsvine front page.

The reason Apple is so successful is that they'd never release something like this. They understand the synergy between form and function, and certainly don't subvert the latter for the former.

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5 votes

#2.4 - Mon May 19, 2008 10:37 PM EDT

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finalcut

I have to agree with vas in some regards. I saw one story I wanted to go read but couldn't just click on it and have it load in the bottom - instead I had to scroll through almost the entire "vortex" until that story loaded at the bottom and then I could open the full story in a new page.

They really need to make each article "tile" clickable wherever it is in the vortex so you can load it up and read it.

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4 votes

#2.5 - Tue May 20, 2008 8:41 AM EDT

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Ms CYPRAH

They really need to make each article "tile" clickable wherever it is in the vortex so you can load it up and read it.

I agree with this totally, because that was the problem I had. I would have thought that to be the easiest thing, clicking on each story as required.

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4 votes

#2.6 - Tue May 20, 2008 8:48 AM EDT

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djd

Eye-candy! Yes I clicked on an interesting story and got something completely different. Also, I have a wide screen and half of the swirling headlines are off the top of the screen.

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7 votes

#2.7 - Tue May 20, 2008 9:32 AM EDT

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vas

And even if they made the panels clickable, it still is rather useless. Now if they used the 3-D space in some unique way to represent something about these stories or their relationship to each other, that would be useful. Otherwise, why is this better than a page that displayed these items in normal flat columns, which would actually take up less space, and without things moving all the time allow you to go back to something without searching for it in a moving cloud?

2-D and 3-D animations are good things when they are used to provide additional information or to provide user interaction feedback. An example of the latter case is minimizing a window on a Mac (I think Windows Vista does this now): the animation indicates to the user what just happened, which means even a first time user will get that the Window "went somewhere" rather than simply disappeared.

You guys want to see something really cool? Check out the video at Perceptive Pixel, the company behind the giant touch screen CNN uses for realtime election voting analysis.

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7 votes

#2.8 - Tue May 20, 2008 11:26 AM EDT

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Sem0l1na

I didn't have a problem with the navigation. Only loaded one channel/sub at a time though...couldn't really focus with too many more anyway. The x/y page count on the navigation controls is actually a slider so you can forward to the story tab that you want to expand...and you can just click/flip forward through the tabs as fast as you want without really choking anything on your machine... It's nice and reasonably clean...Newsvine front page is pretty cluttered, even after customizing.

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2 votes

#2.9 - Tue May 20, 2008 11:28 AM EDT

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Ms CYPRAH

I think you need to teach us how to use it, Sem0l1na! You seem to have the hang of it. :o)

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3 votes

#2.10 - Tue May 20, 2008 12:19 PM EDT

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Ms CYPRAH

WOW, vas, that Perceptive Pixel is awesome but would seem so advanced for a non-nerd like me. Thanks for the link.

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4 votes

#2.11 - Tue May 20, 2008 12:27 PM EDT

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yasmin

Ok, that was nifty. It took me a second to maneuver it, but it's a nice flash application.

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3 votes

#3 - Mon May 19, 2008 5:59 PM EDT

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Viki Babbles Gonia

Very cool. Under "Special," I saw a nifty site called "Newsvine." ;)

Though, the links it pulls from Newsvine are all AP stories. Though, it's nice that msnbc is taking advantage of their newish acquisition by promoting it on their new product.

It would make more sense if they had news from Newsvine in each of the specific categories, and it sure would be nice if they included user-written stories, though it would be hard to control quality with an automatic process.

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6 votes

#4 - Mon May 19, 2008 6:24 PM EDT

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Calvin Tang

I'll look into what it would take to include Newsvine original content. ;)

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8 votes

#4.1 - Mon May 19, 2008 7:01 PM EDT

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Neron Kesar

Calvin,

While you are at it, would you please investigate why the video segments at

http://nightly.newsvine.com/

are not always current. The segments as I write are date May 17. Today is the 19th!

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2 votes

#4.2 - Mon May 19, 2008 10:06 PM EDT

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Calvin Tang

We had a hiccup on the backend. They're fixing it.

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3 votes

#4.3 - Tue May 20, 2008 9:39 PM EDT

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Viki Babbles Gonia

Awesome, Calvin. Thanks. Even if it were articles that were submitted to the various Gateways? Or a particular group? That way, they would pick up the feed? I suppose it might need some kind of editor...

;)

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2 votes

#4.4 - Tue May 20, 2008 9:53 PM EDT

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omnivorous

Hi from one of the Spectra creators. Very happy to report each individual item in the "cloud" is now clickable. As for the Newsvine channel(s), we had planned to add the vine feed as well, but many headlines got cut off. We could put it back in there if there is interest. Any other you'd like to see?

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2 votes

#4.5 - Sat May 24, 2008 10:39 PM EDT

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Marilyn L

Hi omnivorous. Thanks for letting us know. I realize that Spectra is still in beta, so you're still working out the kinks. Long headlines are one of our hallmarks LOL! Don't know the answer to that, but of course we'd love our top articles' feeds to be added.

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3 votes

#4.6 - Sat May 24, 2008 10:47 PM EDT

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Viki Babbles Gonia

Thanks for checking in, omnivorous! I'm so glad each item is now clickable. That makes it much more friendly as far as I'm concerned.

And maybe getting headlines cut off would encourage some users to compose in a more pithy manner. ;)

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2 votes

#4.7 - Sun May 25, 2008 12:25 AM EDT

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omnivorous

No worries. The 'Vine' and 'Wire + Vine' feeds have been add to the menu. -Sam

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2 votes

#4.8 - Wed May 28, 2008 4:47 PM EDT

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Sem0l1na

I admit I haven't read the article yet, though I will in a bit. I'm interested to learn more about how content is selected...

@ Marilyn - not to take the discussion in a different direction, but you mention not being particularly fond of Flash? What don't you like about it? Just curious.

The other thing, I thought Flash was a proprietary technology of Adobe's? Although I heard something recently on how they were going to open it up.

I'm going to go check out the site...

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2 votes

#5 - Mon May 19, 2008 7:01 PM EDT

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Marilyn L

I like Flash for just that, adding some pizzazz to a site.

What I don't like about it is that Google is blind to it. Spiders mostly don't see it, so if you care about people being able to find your site using search, you have to build two sites, one in Flash, one in html. If you have to build the whole thing in HTML anyway, why do a full Flash site?

I use it inside HTML pages, and would love to use Papervision to create cool apps. They are fine if you're not seeking search points. So, for embedded video and other applications it's fine. Just not for whole sites, IMHO.

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3 votes

#5.1 - Tue May 20, 2008 6:25 PM EDT

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Sem0l1na

Spiders mostly don't see it, so if you care about people being able to find your site using search, you have to build two sites, one in Flash, one in html. If you have to build the whole thing in HTML anyway, why do a full Flash site?

Ok, this is a big point...duplication of effort in order to get web visibility. And loss of visibility otherwise.

I couldn't understand building a whole site in Flash - it would implode my machine to display it..ok I'm exagerating!

I play with Adobe Captivate a lot, and a little touch-up in Flash, but all for internal consumption, so search isn't a consideration. Good info to be aware of though. Thanks!

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3 votes

#5.2 - Tue May 20, 2008 6:41 PM EDT

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MinnieApolis

Dennis has a way with words, hunh?

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2 votes

#6 - Mon May 19, 2008 7:07 PM EDT

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TopJedi

Very cool, thanks for the post. I'm not sure how I would use it except maybe like a screen saver on one of my flat screen tvs as discussion point or very different way to check on the news from time to time.

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5 votes

#7 - Mon May 19, 2008 7:59 PM EDT

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Viki Babbles Gonia

That's a neat idea.

OMG. Did I just say "neat?"

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4 votes

#7.1 - Tue May 20, 2008 9:54 PM EDT

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ffeineandsugar

Hey. Neat is a good word! If you'd used 'keen', I'd be a little worried, now!

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2 votes

#7.2 - Wed May 21, 2008 9:37 PM EDT

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Viki Babbles Gonia

Phew. I thought for a minute there I'd turned into a middle-aged fuddy-duddy.

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2 votes

#7.3 - Thu May 22, 2008 7:39 PM EDT

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Neron Kesar

There's even a section for Newsvine, for those of us interested in the further integration of Newsvine into MSNBC.

Thanks, Marilyn. I would like to be publicly counted among those in favor of the integration.

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2 votes

#8 - Mon May 19, 2008 8:38 PM EDT

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sushicat

Try the games they were interesting. Neat site.

Good seed there Marilyn. :)

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#9 - Mon May 19, 2008 9:14 PM EDT

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Marilyn L

Thanks, sushicat. I haven't had time to try the games, but they look like fun for a newsjunky, so I ought to like them.

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#9.1 - Tue May 20, 2008 6:27 PM EDT

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bf-paine

Good seed Marilyn.

Spectra is clearly a limited-function, proof-of-concept app, but the advantages of its 3D information display are immediately apparent.

It'll be interesting to watch how it evolves over time.

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3 votes

#10 - Mon May 19, 2008 10:06 PM EDT

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Eric Atienza

Agreed. Functionally I'd still go with a simpler newsreader any day, but I could see swearing by something like this once the interface is smoothed out.

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3 votes

#10.1 - Mon May 19, 2008 10:50 PM EDT

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Ms CYPRAH

Mmmm...Seems most promising, but would take some getting used to. I was very impressed!

I think I will appreciate it more when I feel confident using it. :o)

Thanks for this post, Marilyn.

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2 votes

#11 - Tue May 20, 2008 8:24 AM EDT

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Mykola Bilokonsky

I'm actually looking to use papervision 3d to power a blog I'm working on. It'll be superswank... :)

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4 votes

#12 - Tue May 20, 2008 9:01 AM EDT

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Marilyn L

I'd love to hear more about that Myk, and of course, see it, too. How hard is papervision 3d to work with? We're looking at it, but haven't yet downloaded or tried it out. Love to hear your experience.

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1 vote

#12.1 - Tue May 20, 2008 3:25 PM EDT

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Mykola Bilokonsky

I've only just scratched the surface, but lee brimelow has a really sort of comprehensive beginner's tutorial over at gotoAndLearn. If you're interested you should check it out!

Actually he just put up Flash 10 tutorials, if you're interested!

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1 vote

#12.2 - Tue May 20, 2008 5:32 PM EDT

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Marilyn L

Thanks, Myk. I'll take a look, and also sent the link to my assistant to check out. Do post the link to the blog when you've got it working.

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1 vote

#12.3 - Tue May 20, 2008 6:30 PM EDT

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Mykola Bilokonsky

It won't be soon, it's more of a long-term project once my new venture into the world of professional webdev has stabilized - but you can bet I will!

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1 vote

#12.4 - Tue May 20, 2008 6:51 PM EDT

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Steve Mock

I think Spectra is a little too flashy.

If you like your news in colors, this has the same flavor(s). Size and tint are also indicators of relevance and age respectively.

Newsmap

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5 votes

#13 - Tue May 20, 2008 10:27 AM EDT

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Sem0l1na

No, no, no! Half the content is in such microscopic font you cant read it!

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2 votes

#13.1 - Tue May 20, 2008 11:24 AM EDT

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Steve Mock

Hover.

It's small because it's 'small' news. As opposed to the 'big' stories. I think that's clever.

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5 votes

#13.2 - Tue May 20, 2008 11:38 AM EDT

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Ms CYPRAH

I have to agree with Sem0l1na on Newsmap, I don't like the look of that as you can lose the small stories if you don't hover over them.

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3 votes

#13.3 - Tue May 20, 2008 12:21 PM EDT

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Sem0l1na

Yes, what if I'm a total newsgeek with no life and need to scan the most insignificant bits?

What if the MSM has a gag order on the news I'm interested in and makes it so I can't read it?

Paranoid? Yes, I understand paranoia!

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2 votes

#13.4 - Tue May 20, 2008 6:43 PM EDT

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John Denner

I didn't have a problem with the navigation. Only loaded one channel/sub at a time though...couldn't really focus with too many more anyway.

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#14 - Tue May 20, 2008 11:42 AM EDT

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Allan Neal

New package, same contents.

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2 votes

#15 - Tue May 20, 2008 2:48 PM EDT

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The Angry Blonde

Pretty neat.

TAB~

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2 votes

#16 - Fri May 23, 2008 9:48 PM EDT

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John Denner

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#17 - Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:09 AM EDT

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John Denner

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#18 - Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:10 AM EDT

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MARILYN L

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